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Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Alabama. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Alaska. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
| Serving Pima County (Retirement Care Communities) Laure Mendenhall - Broadway Proper Retirement and Assisted Living 400 S Broadway Place Tucson, Arizona 85710 About Broadway Proper Retirement | Contact Laure Mendenhall for Help & Information |
| Serving all of Arizona (Retirement Care Communities) Guiding Light ALC ~ Senior Resource Connection 2925 East Riggs Road, Suite 8-128 Chandler, AZ 85249 About Guiding Light ALC | Contact Guiding Light ALC for Help & Information |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Arkansas. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
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Northern California
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Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in California. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
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Sacramento Area / Greater San Francisco Bay Area
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Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in California. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
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Central California / Monterey Bay Area / Santa Barbara / San Luis Obispo
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Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in California. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
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Los Angeles Area / Orange County / Inland Empire/ San Diego Area
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| Los Angeles & Orange Counties (Retirement Care Communities) South Bay Dependable Home Caregivers 21512 Main Street #1, Carson, CA 90745 About South Bay Dependable Home Caregivers | Contact Us for Help & Information |
| Orange, Riverside, San Bernardino, Los Angeles & San Diego Counties Susanne Miller ~ Your Estate Coach 1501 N Harbor Blvd, Ste 100 Fullerton, CA 92835 About Susanne Miller | Contact Your Estate Coach for Help & Information |
| Orange, Los Angeles, Riverside, San Diego, Santa Barara, and San Bernadino Counties (Retirement Care Communities) A Plan For Senior Care ~ Chere Vought - Founder, CEO 28081 Marguerite Parkway #3978 Mission Viejo, CA 92690 About A Plan For Senior Care | Contact A Plan For Senior Care |
| Riverside, San Diego and Orange Counties (Retirement Care Communities) Senior Retirement Care ~ Clark D. Pace 27315 Jefferson Ave., Suite J-144 Temecula, California 92590 About Senior Retirement Care | Contact Clark D. Pace for Help & Information |
| Serving Southern California (Retirement Care Communities) Time To Move Care Placement, Inc ~ Sydney J Kennedy, CSA PO Box 722225, San Diego, CA 92129 About Time To Move Care Placement, Inc | Contact Sydney J Kennedy for Help & Information |
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All of California
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Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in California. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Colorado. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
| Farmington Valley Area including but not limited to: Farmington, West Hartford Simsbury, Avon, Canton, Burlington, Granby, Plymouth, Terryville, Bristol, Plainville, Southington, and New Britain (Retirement Care Communities) Village Gate of Farmington 88 Scott Swamp Road, Farmington, CT 06032 About Village Gate of Farmington | Contact Village Gate for Help & Information |
| North Branford (Retirement Care Communities) Evergreen Woods ~ specializing in Independent Living 203-488-8000 88 Notch Hill Road, North Branford, CT 06471 About Evergreen Woods | Contact Evergreen Woods for Help & Information |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Delaware. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Washington D.C. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
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Panhandle & North Florida: Pensacola / Tallahassee / Jacksonville / Gainesville
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Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Florida. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
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Central Florida: Orlando / Ocala / Daytona Beach / Palm Bay
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| Orange, Osceola, Seminole, Lake, Sumter, and Marion Counties Admire Care, LLC ~ Admire Mercier, RN, MBA (Retirement Care Communities) 450 E. Highway 50, Suite 8 A, Clermont, FL. 34711 About Admire Care, LLC | Contact Admire Mercier, RN, MBA for Help & Information |
| Proudly serving all of Florida (Retirement Care Communities) LifeCare Funding Alternatives, LLC ~ Marlene J Camp, Veteran Service Officer 13710 N US Highway 441, Suite 500 The Villages, FL 32159 About LifeCare Funding Alternatives, LLC | Contact Marlene J Camp for Help & Information |
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Southwest Florida: Tampa / St. Petersburg / Cape Coral / Naples
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| Fort Myers Barkley Place ~ specializing in Independent Living & Assisted Living 36 Barkley Circle, Fort Myers, FL 239-939-3553 About Barkley Place | Contact Barkley Place for Help & Information |
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Southeast Florida: Port St Lucie / West Palm Beach / Boca Raton / Miami
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| Broward, Palm Beach, Miami- Dade, & Monroe Counties (Retirement Care Communities) A1A Senior Helpers of Florida ~ Edward Shlapak 2881 East Oakland Park Blvd Suite 221 Fort Lauderdale, FL 33306 About A1A Senior Helpers | Contact Edward Shlapak for Help & Information |
| Broward, Palm Beach and Miami-Dade Counties (Retirement Care Communities) Adult Senior Placement PO Box 771223, Coral Springs, FL 33077 About Adult Senior Placement | Contact Adult Senior Placement for Help & Information |
| Miami - Dade and Monroe Counties (Retirement Care Communities) Golden Home Health Care, Inc. 14331 SW 120th St. #211 Miami, FL 33186 About Golden Home Health Care | Contact Golden Home Health Care for Help & Info |
| Miami-Dade County & all of Florida (Retirement Care Communities) St. Mary Adult Care A.L.F. ~ Elena Fernandez 5716 SW 149 PL, Miami, Fl 33193 About St. Mary Adult Care A.L.F. | Contact Elena Fernandez for Help & Information |
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All of Florida
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Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Florida. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Georgia. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Hawaii. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Idaho. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
| Chicago and surrounding areas. Elderwerks is a free service and we help seniors throughout the country. (Retirement Care Communities) Paxem Inc. & Elderwerks ~ Jennifer Prell P.O. Box 92 Cary, IL 60013 About Paxem Inc. & Elderwerks. | Contact Jennifer Prell for Help & Information |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Indiana. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Iowa. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Kansas. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Kentucky. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
| Baton Rouge Area (Retirement Care Communities) St. James Place ~ Michelle Shank 333 Lee Drive, Baton Rouge, LA 70808 About St. James Place | Contact Michelle Shank for Help & Information |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Maine. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
| Timonium Mays Chapel Ridge ~ specializing in Independent Living, Assisted Living & Alzheimer's Care 12261 Roundwood Road, Timonium, MD 21093 (410) 628-2100 About Mays Chapel Ridge | Contact Mays Chapel Ridge for Help & Information |
| Westminster Westminster Ridge ~ specializing in Independent Living, Assisted Living & Alzheimer's Care 505 High Acre Drive, Westminster, MD 21157 (410) 871-2225 About Westminster Ridge | Contact Westminster Ridge for Help & Information |
| Walpole New Pond Village ~ specializing in Independent Living ~ 508-660-1555 180 Main Street, Walpole, MA 02081 About New Pond Village | Contact New Pond Village for Help & Information |
| Woburn (Retirement Care Communities) Country Club Heights ~ 781-935-4064 specializing in Independent Living & Assisted Living 3 Rehabilitation Way, Woburn, MA 01801 About Country Club Heights | Contact Country Club Heights for Help & Information |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Michigan. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Minnesota. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Mississippi. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
| Springfield The Montclair ~ specializing in Independent Living 1000 East Montclair, Springfield, MO 65807 417-886-2100 About The Montclair | Contact The Montclair for Help & Information |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Montana. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Nebraska. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Nevada. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in New Hampshire. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in New Mexico. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in New York. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
| Triangle Area, North Carolina (Retirement Care Communities) Cathy Rosebaugh, Certified Senior Advisor ~ Alterna Home Solutions 5821 Falls of Neuse Road, Raleigh, NC 27609 About Alterna Home Solutions | Contact Cathy Rosebaugh for Help & Information |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in North Dakota. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Ohio. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Oklahoma. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
| Northern Oregon (Retirement Care Communities) Assurety Senior Care Center 15608 NE Noble St. Vancouver WA. 98682 About Assurety Senior Care Center | Contact Assurety Senior Care Center |
| Jamison (Retirement Care Communities) The Manor at York Town ~ specializing in Independent Living 2010 York Road, Jamison, PA 18929 267-488-0398 About The Manor at York Town | Contact The Manor at York Town |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Rhode Island. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in South Carolina. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in South Dakota. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Tennessee. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
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Panhandle Plains: Amarillo / Lubbock / Wichita Falls
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Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Texas. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
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Big Bend Country: El Paso / Midland / Del Rio
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Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Texas. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
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Hill Country and South Texas Plains: Austin / San Antonio / Laredo
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Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Texas. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
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Prairies and Lakes / Piney-Woods: Dallas / Fort Worth / Denison
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Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Texas. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
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Gulf Coast: Houston / Corpus Christi / Brownsville
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Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Texas. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
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Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Texas. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Utah. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Vermont. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
| Albemarle County, City of Charlottesville, & Greene County (Retirement Care Communities) Cynthia Hash SRES ~ Caregivers Library / Keller Williams Realty 300 Preston Avenue, Ste 300 Charlottesville, VA 22902 About Cynthia Hash | Contact Caregivers Library / Keller Williams Realty |
| Hampton Roads and surrounding areas in Virginia (Retirement Care Communities) Care Connect of Hampton Roads, Inc ~ Christina Drumm-Boyd, CSA, Geriatric Care Manager 200 S. Kellam Road, Virginia Beach, VA 23462 About Care Connect of Hampton Roads | Contact Christina Drumm-Boyd |
| Central Virginia Area (Retirement Care Communities) Choice Connections of Virginia ~ Lisa Hollier 6000 Oxbury Ct Glen Allen, VA 23059 Choice Connections of Virginia | Contact Lisa Hollier for Help & Contact Information |
| Clark County, Vancouver WA (Retirement Care Communities) Assurety Senior Care Center 15608 NE Noble St. Vancouver WA. 98682 About Assurety Senior Care Center | Contact Assurety Senior Care Center |
| King & Snohomish Counties (Retirement Care Communities) P.A.T.H.S. Adult Family Home & Respite 17517 260th Ave Se, Monroe, WA 98272 About P.A.T.H.S. Adult Family Home & Respite | Contact P.A.T.H.S. for Help & Information |
| Seattle - Eastside, Bellevue, Bothell, Woodinville, Kirkland Cherry Hill Adult Family Home (Retirement Care Communities) Contact Adult Family Home Today |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in West Virginia. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
| Milwaukee Metro, Madison, and surrounding areas. Elderwerks is a free service and we help seniors throughout the country. (Retirement Care Communities) Paxem Inc. & Elderwerks ~ Jennifer Prell P.O. Box 92 Cary, IL 60013 About Paxem Inc. & Elderwerks. | Contact Jennifer Prell for Help & Information |
Although this area is without a member to assist you, we can provide you contact with similar elder care services in Wyoming. Click here if you would like to view a complete list of long term care providers, advisors, & services on our site. You may also contact us (the National Care Planning Council) by clicking here. Furthermore, we provide books on eldercare which may be useful to you. If you are looking to get a listing on this site, click here to join. |
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